There is real fear and loathing in the UK right now. You can hear it in Cameron's voice when he talks about the subject. Now you can read it over at UK Armed Forces Commentary Blog. But its even worse than that. According to UKAFC even if they vote it down, the divisions will be even bigger and the pain will continue no matter what. Read it here but check out this tidbit.
I've said that the ramifications of vote that supports breaking away will reach far and wide.
I'm more convinced of that than ever.
Pass the popcorn. Yes or no, this is gonna be good. We're seeing a history altering event and few people realize it.
What worries me, and surprises me in the worst possible sense of the word, is that the result is so uncertain. It is scary to me that it is such a close race, and that there is such division, and that i hear people saying that the heart tells them to break out of the Union. Sincerely, i never imagined something like this.This is getting beyond good.
Even if the no wins, as i hope, it looks like it will be with a small majority from what i see, and this is still bad news. It is painful to see Scotland in this state, and so divided and eager to get out. Moreover, such a tight margin is a source of enduring uncertainty: will we go through a whole new drama in a few years time? How will this issue evolve? A break up would be a disaster, but the "neverendum" scenario that already some fear would be just as bad and in some ways worse.
From a purely armed forces focused angle, the uncertainty resulting from a narrow victory would make me hesitate a hell of a lot in going ahead with investment in Faslane, in the shipyards, in the spaceport for which Leuchars is in the shortlist of possible locations. How can huge investments be made with the real risk of turning out being money burned soon afterwards? How can the future of the armed forces, already strapped for cash, be further tied to Scotland with the risk of even greater damage if this nightmare lives on?
On the other hand, of course, not making the investments and bring stuff south of the border would only reinforce the divisions. It looks like a Lose - Lose situation. Very scary.
I've said that the ramifications of vote that supports breaking away will reach far and wide.
I'm more convinced of that than ever.
Pass the popcorn. Yes or no, this is gonna be good. We're seeing a history altering event and few people realize it.
A yes vote tomorrow is going to have ramifications not only in Great Britain, but elsewhere in the world. Including states in the US.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what the results are going to be but I am almost certain that it doesn't really matter when it comes to expenses, this is going to cost money no matter the vote. UK DoD better be prepared for more cuts and I wonder if after this and the next UK strategic report that I think comes out by the end of the year, we will see the number of F35s reduced.....UK realizes that they have cut too much and have to retain some sort of balance in it's forces, they just can't have just a few high end items and nothing else.....what else is there to cut?
ReplyDeleteQuebec had a vote in 1995 that was just as tenuous for Canada. In the run-up to the polls were evenly split. Many people I knew who lived in Quebec were renewing or getting their Canadian passport if they did not have one at the time. Even watching it live on the TV it the vote hovered at the 50-50 mark for hours until shifted to 50.58% NO with over 93% voting.
ReplyDeleteA no means yes eventually
ReplyDeleteScotland is already subsidised by England.
The stay campaign has promised little more than throw more and more English money to Scotland.
The situation has passed breaking point
This sets a good precedence too, because people are realizing that the obsolete concept of superpower nation states is no longer viable. The UK is just one example. The other is the United States.
ReplyDeleteThe Soviet Union and the collapse of various colonial empires was really the beginning of a long, drawn out road.
I imagine a future where there is more decentralization and localization, because globalism is a utter joke.
And even worse : it's globalism who won in this situation : countries and government are divided, they become weaker. Weaker than ever.
ReplyDeleteThis is the way of globalism, divide to reign,
What is laughtable is that happends at the second pro-globalism country of the world !
In other words, UK has been shot in the foot by US or himself.
I ask myself how much time before north ireland start to burn ?
Of course this thing is totally pro-globalization and no the contrary. Small irrelevant states are nothing compared to the power of the banksters and the Brussels-Berlin axis only waits to more of this in Spain, Belgium and yes Northern Ireland where the catholics are growing every year (and maybe Italy of even the centralized France) although in public they say the contrary but the germans have plans for the ''regionalization'' of Europe since de 90's or since the 40's...
DeleteEurope is about to loose one of the few serious states with military capacities because of a vote that originated nearly as a joke 3 years ago.
This is like pandora box...